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4in+ front suspension lift....alignment..????

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by Tenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:25 pm

hello everyone. new to the site, ive been lurking for awhile now.
here, trailvoy and GMT....I have learned a shit load for all of you
on lifting my truck.

I have accomplished 4+inches of suspension lift up front, juuuust
shy of CV binding. as a result have some SERIOUS positive camber.

I want to ask those of you that have also went with a 4in lift up...??
were you able to get the camber (close) to spec...?????
Is it TOOO much lift for the truck too handle...??? (alignment wise)???
if so, I may want to come down a bit, because I will be doing lots of road
driving, not only offroad.

thank you in advance for your time.

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by djthumper » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:32 pm

Please tell me that you have read the stuff from this thread... viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3060
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by TBYODA » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:55 pm

I would also check out this thread. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2290
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by Conner299 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:56 pm

:need pics: :no pics:

Pleeeez! I, along with everyone else who peruses here, wants to see how you accomplished this.
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by DirtyBacon04 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:07 pm

4" lift w/o binding? I think some of our other members have done the calculations and trials w/o success. We're all very interested to see how you did it. Hopefully it wont turn you into a Zombie.............. :zombie:
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by mikekey » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:08 pm

You don't need an alignment, you'll be fine. :lurk:
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by Tenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:14 pm

mikekey wrote:You don't need an alignment, you'll be fine. :lurk:




I guess your the comedian of the site huh...???

your so very funny....hahahaha

feel better...???


is there anyone with half a brain, that can just answer a simple question...????

THOSE OF YOU WITH OVER 3IN OF LIFT (CLOSER TO 4) UP FRONT.......
WERE YOU GUYS ABLE TO GET THE ALIGNMENT CLOSE ENOUGH TO USE ON THE ROAD.????

THANK YOU..

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by DirtyBacon04 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:19 pm

Tenny wrote:.....I have accomplished 4+inches of suspension lift up front, juuuust
shy of CV binding. as a result have some SERIOUS positive camber.

I want to ask those of you that have also went with a 4in lift up...??



No one that I know of has 4"+ of suspension lift. Are you referring to combined suspension + body? And you mean just shy of binding at full extension or at ride level? What kinda springs you runnin? Sooo many questions need to be answered for me!?!?!!!!!
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by Tenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:19 pm

TBYODA wrote:I would also check out this thread. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2290



YES....!!!!

this was a great thread....however, did not help me much with getting the truck aligned.


I just wanted to know how difficult.....OR AT ALL was it to get the truck aligned after
a major front end lift with our trucks....

thanks though, I did like that thread very much.
and often go there to get many ideas.....IN FACT
gave me the idea to go 3in spacer with 88s up front.

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by Tenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:21 pm

DirtyBacon04 wrote:
Tenny wrote:.....I have accomplished 4+inches of suspension lift up front, juuuust
shy of CV binding. as a result have some SERIOUS positive camber.

I want to ask those of you that have also went with a 4in lift up...??



No one that I know of has 4"+ of suspension lift. Are you referring to combined suspension + body? And you mean just shy of binding at full extension or at ride level? What kinda springs you runnin? Sooo many questions need to be answered for me!?!?!!!!!



im running 3in spacer with 88s up front.

I need to know how difficult it is to get the alignment in spec...???

or if I need to lose the 88s and put my 85s back on...that's all

no bigg deal bro

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by Tenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:31 pm

I think you all are over thinking this whole thing...

im not talking about more than 4in....

im talking just at 4in MAX, that's all I got
I just said 4+ in the title, but I didn't mean more than 4..lol

its right at 4, and yes no binding at full droop...

Im actually just shy of it, don't plan on rock crawling
or mudding, (unless its completely nessesary) I the mud
and hate rocks, mostly trails. and where I live are lots
of dune trails, slightly wooded in some cases...

but will be also driven daily, so I wanted to know (so I don't waste my time)
if I can get this thing aligned, or is it impossible...???, than ill 86 the 88s lol.

listen im an ASE cert. master tech., I know what im talking about, and doing.

just needed to know about the alignment....before I do it.

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by Conner299 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:36 pm

Here is what doesn't jive, for me. Certified ASE master tech. Replaces, and modifies suspension components, up front. Why has he not done his own alignment? Or, at least tried. I'm calling BS.
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by Tenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:42 pm

Conner299 wrote:Here is what doesn't jive, for me. Certified ASE master tech. Replaces, and modifies suspension components, up front. Why has he not done his own alignment? Or, at least tried. I'm calling BS.



I am going to do it Einstein...lol
is it that much of an issue for you, to think.....(to me it looks like
a whole hell of a lot of positive camber....almost too much)
thanks why im asking, before I go and have this done.
im very sorry you were lied to as a child. and dont believe things.
I have no reason to lie, just asked a question
SORRY IF MY QUESTION WAS "OUT OF LINE"
I had no idea it would twist so many panties

thanks you guys helped a ton.

ill find out either way this weekend, I need to take the truck
to a friends shop to do the alignment, as I don't have an alignment rack

thanks for all your help bro,
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by DirtyBacon04 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:50 pm

Wow

As i've stated... no one that I know has done a 4" suspension lift. Hence I dont know if it's possible to align the shit at that much lift. I would ask an ASE Master Tech if i knew one...

Do you already have a 4" lift or are you talking hypotheticals? Have you flipped your control arms? Replaced CV's with cardone boots? We're trying to help you, but you gotta swallow your pride for a sec and give us a better reply with better grammer.

But short answer; no, you wont get the alignment perfect. at 3" camber can be corrected, and caster usually wont, not that caster matters.
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by Conner299 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:54 pm

90% of anyone asking if they need an alignment, after a lift, has already had this question answered. To MANY differing degrees. People have even posted photos, of their alignment sheets, pre and post alignment. If you've been reading, as much as you say, your question would've already been answered.

EDIT: Meant to say: "If their vehicle can be aligned."
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by Trail X » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:57 pm

Flip the control arms, that's about the best you can do. It sounds strange, but it brings the ball joint out, into the adjustment range of the LCA. Some of us get it in spec, and some of us are a bit outside the limits, but close. My caster is in, but I'm still out on camber.

Sorry about the hecklers... they seem to like to bash the new guy lately without actually being helpful.
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by drburke » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:00 pm

It sounds like you flipped your UCAs. That's exactly what mine did. Three of the shops I went to wouldn't touch it unless I flipped them back. This was before I put spacers on though, so YMMV.

FYI, I have 88s and mark's 3" lift w/o uca flipped and I don't have any camber alignment issues. If you've read the threads pertaining to lifts, you'll see the most we have is a 3" spacer + whatever spring rate you install for the front. We have quite a lot of members running 3" + 89s w/o binding or alignment issues.
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by mikekey » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:05 pm

JamesDowning wrote:Sorry about the hecklers... they seem to like to bash the new guy lately without actually being helpful.


If these kids had command of the english language and could form solid sentence structures.....

Maybe then some of us would take these questions more seriously.

Otherwise, smells like troll.
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by Moots1288 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:07 pm

mikekey wrote:
JamesDowning wrote:Sorry about the hecklers... they seem to like to bash the new guy lately without actually being helpful.


If these kids had command of the english language and could form solid sentence structures.....

Maybe then some of us would take these questions more seriously.

Otherwise, smells like troll.
i wonder what trolls smell like?
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by mikekey » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:08 pm

Moots1288 wrote:i wonder what trolls smell like?


A lot like bullshit. Kind of how poor people always smell like sour milk. :lurk:
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