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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed May 22, 2013 10:58 pm

Rear is easy to get or give a couple inches. Front is the bitch with these.
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by ErikSS » Thu May 23, 2013 5:51 pm

I can see that. I've flipped my upper control arms, MarkMC's 3" lift, MarkMC's 3" body lift, and for now, stock springs and struts. I expect to want the Radflo or at least stiffer front springs when I install MDB's front bumper and skids... But I'm pretty happy with how it drives after the alignment today.
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by ErikSS » Fri May 24, 2013 8:59 pm

Messin around in my brothers back yard.
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by jrSS » Sat May 25, 2013 8:11 am

I like your wheel choice!!
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by ErikSS » Sat May 25, 2013 10:12 am

jrSS wrote:I like your wheel choice!!

Thanks! I talked Discount into bolting up different offset wheels. I liked this one. Its a +10 offset. I now know that I could have run the +25 that everyone talks about. I could run into clearence issues with sidewall bulge from a mud tire though. Im happy with my choice. I have lots of room with these All Terrains.
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by ErikSS » Sat May 25, 2013 10:20 pm

So... I found a good reason to run the Z71 spring instead of the air bags. With both sway bars disconnected and 1 tire on a stump.. the low rear corner blew out the air bag. Sounds a bit like a shit gun! lol
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by v7guy » Sat May 25, 2013 10:23 pm

hahahaha
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by ErikSS » Sat May 25, 2013 10:37 pm

v7guy wrote:hahahaha

uh huh. I do still have your differential. lol
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by HARDTRAILZ » Sat May 25, 2013 10:59 pm

Spring time!!!!
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by The Roadie » Sun May 26, 2013 9:15 am

ErikSS wrote:
Regulator1175 wrote:Maybe I missed it, but why are you deciding to keep the air bags? Especially when you can get a set of Z71 rear springs for pretty cheap!


I already have a pair of Z71's. This is a bit of an experiment. MarkMC and I thought it would be cool to try slipping the standard rear spring lift spacer under the air bag. All I did was make an extension for the sensor. It seems to be working real well although I have really driven it yet.
Very cool. Even failed experiments give you data to make better decisions down the road. It's my Rule #15: http://www.roadie.org/BCRules.pdf
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by v7guy » Sun May 26, 2013 10:40 am

ErikSS wrote:
v7guy wrote:hahahaha

uh huh. I do still have your differential. lol



Woah woah woah now! Take it easy! ROTFL

I'm with Roadie, you gotta pay and put up with inconvenience to try new things. But it brings with it knowledge and that's mighty helpful. You're barking up that tree already, you're gonna be a popular fella around here if you keep it up.

Maybe a heavier duty bag is in order... I hear those 18 wheelers have strong bags...
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by ErikSS » Sun May 26, 2013 8:15 pm

Z71 springs installed. Air bags are removed, the hoses were in the wire loom, so that took a few mins to unwrap. So, of coarse, I went right back to the same stump. lol With the air bags, and the front sway bar I measured 1 1 /2" of front flex. (tire to hood... left compared to right) After getting it down and putting the air bag back together, I drove it to my shop to get my Z71 springs. On the same stump with Z71 rear springs and the front sway bar disconnected, I measured 4" of front flex.
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by Blazintrails03 » Sun May 26, 2013 8:21 pm

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by ErikSS » Sun May 26, 2013 11:35 pm

Air bag still on left and Z71 on right.
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by ErikSS » Sun May 26, 2013 11:36 pm

Pulled a pop up camper after I put in the springs. Not bad! I was wondering how much my air bags were doing for me with the towing. I think the sway bar makes a bigger difference.
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by ErikSS » Sun May 26, 2013 11:38 pm

Final battle with the little stump.
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by ErikSS » Tue May 28, 2013 10:36 pm

Fenders arived! A few dents to be ironed out but I have fresh steel.Image
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by ErikSS » Wed May 29, 2013 8:46 pm

I got the fenders bolted on. I had some issues adjusting them.... but it seems ok now. This is a pic of what I cut off.
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by ErikSS » Wed May 29, 2013 8:50 pm

Im getting tired so I think I will ride like this for a week or two.
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by v7guy » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:53 am

that looks similar to what most of us have done. Some door edge molding and some primer will seal it off from the elements.

Personally I like to keep the rocker plastic and the accompanying seals. But there's a number of guys that have ditched it entirely.

Looks like you're going to need to trim the rear bumper a smidge and kick the rear axle back a little bit. Seems mighty close to the front of the rear wheel well opening.
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