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Titan Exhaust Jack. Anyone ever seen/used this?

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by DirtyBacon04 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:24 pm



Curious if anyone has ever used this. Seems like use of this could be tragic on uneven surfaces with limited traction. Also dont know how this could effect an engine with the increased back pressure being applied for the higher pressure heavier vechiles.
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by fishsticks » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:38 am

I'll take my Hi-Lift + offroad base thanks,
I own too many vehicles now. Let's leave it at that.
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by DirtyBacon04 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:46 am

Yea, I dont like the idea of it either. I like my highlift (even though i've never used it).
OR there is always the option of not getting stuck.
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by Trail X » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:30 am

I've read good things about these. But as with anytime you're lifting thousands of pounds, safety needs to be taken into account.

ARB makes one in the US, never seen the green one before.

Many people on Expo consider the hi-lift to be extremely dangerous, which it is, but I'm not sure the air jack is any safer.
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by bgwolfpack » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:45 pm

Would work well in sand and worth it, but the jacking points might be a problem with our vehicles, just another reason for MDB Fabrication products. (Mike needs his own smilies) :thumleft:
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by navigator » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:07 pm

seems like I have seen some video of rescue types using something similar.
I think it is like anything else, it has its place but (as the video shows) isn't the solution for all jacking.
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by OregTrailBlazin » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:15 pm

I have one of these I picked up for sand and snow... Have never used it though, just got it at a real good price.... Free! Its a titan, brand new, never used. Makes sense for my TB since the only Highlift point is my front bumper.

I guess I should try it one of these days. :angry whip:
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by navigator » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:39 pm

Jonathan, you need one of these to go with your hi lift. Someone sent me a link one time about the many uses of a hi lift, I an't find it right now.

http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/lift-mate.html
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by fishsticks » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:57 pm

navigator wrote:Jonathan, you need one of these to go with your hi lift. Someone sent me a link one time about the many uses of a hi lift, I an't find it right now.

http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/lift-mate.html



I have one of those.... I've used it.... once.
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by OregTrailBlazin » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:43 pm

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navigator wrote:Jonathan, you need one of these to go with your hi lift. Someone sent me a link one time about the many uses of a hi lift, I an't find it right now.

http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/lift-mate.html



I have one of those.... I've used it.... once.



I have one as well, doesn't work well when your trying to change a flat, but you can get it done!
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by Trail X » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:53 am

OregTrailBlazin wrote:I have one as well, doesn't work well when your trying to change a flat, but you can get it done!


Can you do it at all!? I guess you'd lift, place axle on something solid, then change?

I'd guess the jack-mate is intended purely for passive-recovery purposes.
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by SomeOffPave » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:39 pm

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OregTrailBlazin wrote:I have one as well, doesn't work well when your trying to change a flat, but you can get it done!


Can you do it at al!? I guess you'd lift, place axle on something solid, then change?


Kids!

From your post it is more than obvious you are too young to remember when cars came with bumper jacks. ( You have seen cars from the 40's, 50's, and 60's with metal bumpers haven't you?) Visualize a very cheap anscester of today's Hi-Lift jacks made from all stamped parts. The vertical shaft fit into a base not unlike the plastic accessory base of a Hi-Lift. The fit was loose and wobbly without any load on it and did not get any better as you jacked up the car. There was no placing the axle on something solid then changing the tire. With the suspension on one corner of a vehicle that weighed way more than a fully loaed Trailblazer extended to the max you carefully reached under the fender to remove the flat tire and even more carefully installed the spare. When those first two lug nuts were finger tight you gave a sigh of relief but you were not out of the woods yet. Your lug wrench was the handle. Have you seen the video of a Hi-Lift being lowered and its handle slams the vertical column with each downward rachet? In the olden days if your decent got out of hand the action of the jack would throw that lug wrench at you!

To answer the question "Can you do it at all?" Men of a certain age certainly can but you might be better off using your AAA card.
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by Trail X » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:52 pm

Don't talk at me like I don't understand how to change a tire.

You do know that the accessory they were talking about, right? It's for hooking the WHEEL, not the bumper.

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by SomeOffPave » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:51 pm

JamesDowning wrote:Don't talk at me like I don't understand how to change a tire.

You do know that the accessory they were talking about, right? It's for hooking the WHEEL, not the bumper.


Of course you know how to change a tire. All of us at offroadtb do. That was not my point.

My read-between-the-lines points (some of which were directed to other posters) are: 1) There is nothing truely new under the sun. 2) If I can jack a 1950 Ford or a '65 Chevy with a cheap bumper jack and not damage the car or kill/ injure myself lifting by the wheel should be even better. 3) Isn't one of the rules of off roading to practice using your equipment BEFORE you need it? If you don't, you are still going to need somebody's help when the time comes to use it.
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by KE7WOX » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:27 pm

SomeOffPave wrote:Men of a certain age certainly can but you might be better off using your AAA card.


Your point?
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by Trail X » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:27 pm

SomeOffPave wrote:Of course you know how to change a tire. All of us at offroadtb do. That was not my point.

My read-between-the-lines points (some of which were directed to other posters) are: 1) There is nothing truely new under the sun. 2) If I can jack a 1950 Ford or a '65 Chevy with a cheap bumper jack and not damage the car or kill/ injure myself lifting by the wheel should be even better. 3) Isn't one of the rules of off roading to practice using your equipment BEFORE you need it? If you don't, you are still going to need somebody's help when the time comes to use it.


Maybe you didn't understand my original point then.

If you use a jack mate to lift a tire that needs to be changed, you won't be able to take said wheel off without your vehicle falling back to the ground. I figured that was fairly obvious.

The only way I could imagine doing it with a jack-mate, if so needed, would be to lift the wheel, then set the axle or body on something, so you can remove the jack and jack-mate, then change your wheel. Which is what I was alluding to, above.

Me? I use the hi-lift directly on the slider, and do it all the time.
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by v7guy » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:29 pm

Looks like it could be pretty useful, not sure there's a point if you have a hi lift though. As I build up supplies to take along with me it seems space is at a premium. The more multi use items the better and that only has one use.
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by navigator » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:46 am

SomeOffPave wrote:
JamesDowning wrote:Don't talk at me like I don't understand how to change a tire.

You do know that the accessory they were talking about, right? It's for hooking the WHEEL, not the bumper.


Of course you know how to change a tire. All of us at offroadtb do. That was not my point.

My read-between-the-lines points (some of which were directed to other posters) are: 1) There is nothing truely new under the sun. 2) If I can jack a 1950 Ford or a '65 Chevy with a cheap bumper jack and not damage the car or kill/ injure myself lifting by the wheel should be even better. 3) Isn't one of the rules of off roading to practice using your equipment BEFORE you need it? If you don't, you are still going to need somebody's help when the time comes to use it.


We had a 74 FORD LTD with one of those jacks if I remember right.
Factory bumpers aren't built like that anymore though.
If you don't have an aftermarket bumper or sliders I figure about the only jacking you can do with the hi lift is with a lift mate on the wheel.

In my mind the main uses I can think of for it are to jack the wheel up when stuck in the sand or mud and put something under the tire to get more traction, or to use it as a manual winch.

If I'm changing a tire on normal terrain I should be able to use my scissor jack. If I ever go bigger in tire size I'll throw a few short 2X6 boards in the back.
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by The Roadie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:57 pm

navigator wrote:In my mind the main uses I can think of for it are to jack the wheel up when stuck in the sand or mud and put something under the tire to get more traction,
Exactly. The other advantage of the LiftMate is that picking up on the wheel itself is a LOT faster because the wheel starts to move right away. If you jack up on the frame or rock sliders or bumper, you have to extend the suspension first, THEN the wheel starts to lift. Lots of wasted effort.

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by OregTrailBlazin » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:40 pm

SomeOffPave wrote:To answer the question "Can you do it at all?" Men of a certain age certainly can but you might be better off using your AAA card.



I'm not quite sure where you were getting with that entire post, but I don't think you know enough about the people your talking to, to make such a statement. :roll:

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